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(@pixxekurlz222)

Posted : 05/29/2007 12:53 am

I recently started using fish oil for the past two weeks. I'm using Vital Choice brand. Just google for the website. Anyway, my skin is practically clear now. I didn't even start taking the fish oil for acne...Once I noticed my skin starting to clear I started my research and came across this thread. Anyway, I think I'm about 6-8 1000 mg pills a day. I have battled acne for 12 years. I've tried everything, including accutane. I really hope this the key to clear skin. So far so good. My face has no new pimples. Just scars right now. Below is some info on the brand I'm taking from an e-newsletter the company sent me. This stuff is super good quality! I'm in school for holistic nutrition and my teacher recommened it.

 

Vital Choice Salmon Oil (top left) vs. two standard fish oils

 

We put only whole, unrefined oil from wild Alaskan sockeye salmon in our premium salmon oil supplements. Wild Alaskan sockeye salmon is one of the cleanest fish in the sea: a trait reflected in the purity of our unrefined sockeye oil, which is now certified by NSF: one of the best-respected independent labs in the U.S.

 

Because our naturally pure salmon oil does not need to be distilled, it provides the essential omega-3 fatty acids (EPA & DHA), plus 30 other natural fatty acids and astaxanthin: the potent antioxidant that gives sockeye its distinctive deep-red color.

 

We use fish-gelatin capsules, and now offer our Salmon oil in liquid form for kids and others who have trouble swallowing pills. Last but not least, ours was the first salmon oil supplement certified as sustainably sourced by the Marine Stewardship Council (www.msc.org).

 

 

I recently started using fish oil for the past two weeks. I'm using Vital Choice brand. Just google for the website. Anyway, my skin is practically clear now. I didn't even start taking the fish oil for acne...Once I noticed my skin starting to clear I started my research and came across this thread. Anyway, I think I'm about 6-8 1000 mg pills a day. I have battled acne for 12 years. I've tried everything, including accutane. I really hope this the key to clear skin. So far so good. My face has no new pimples. Just scars right now. Below is some info on the brand I'm taking from an e-newsletter the company sent me. This stuff is super good quality! I'm in school for holistic nutrition and my teacher recommened it.

 

Vital Choice Salmon Oil (top left) vs. two standard fish oils

 

We put only whole, unrefined oil from wild Alaskan sockeye salmon in our premium salmon oil supplements. Wild Alaskan sockeye salmon is one of the cleanest fish in the sea: a trait reflected in the purity of our unrefined sockeye oil, which is now certified by NSF: one of the best-respected independent labs in the U.S.

 

Because our naturally pure salmon oil does not need to be distilled, it provides the essential omega-3 fatty acids (EPA & DHA), plus 30 other natural fatty acids and astaxanthin: the potent antioxidant that gives sockeye its distinctive deep-red color.

 

We use fish-gelatin capsules, and now offer our Salmon oil in liquid form for kids and others who have trouble swallowing pills. Last but not least, ours was the first salmon oil supplement certified as sustainably sourced by the Marine Stewardship Council (www.msc.org).

 

Just want to add that I've ditched all my topical meds. Right now I'm just washing my face and using witch hazel....I'm just relying on the fish oil right now for clear skin. This is how much I believe this is helping me.

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(@doppleganger)

Posted : 05/29/2007 1:15 am

Prior to visiting the derm this Thursday I hadn't even been regularly using topicals since 2004, when I was using Duac Gel/Retin-A Micro/Azelex. As of late I've only been using an OTC 10% BP (Clearasil) for spot treatment and nothing else.

 

Man, I hope this stuff (Benzaclin, Ziana) works and that waiting this long for a derm visit was an exercise in.........nothing.

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(@whitey)

Posted : 05/29/2007 9:17 am

hey one more quick question i went online and i saw one called Fish Oil Concentrate Capsules, what does the concentrate part mean because all the others are just called fish oil capsules.

They just mean that there's more EPA and DHA per capsule. The norm is about 300mg total per capsule, but I saw some in Boots which had about 550mg per capsule. However I worked out that mg for mg they are more expensive than even their own standard Omega 3 capsules, so I didn't bother buying them!

What brand was it as you have to be careful to make sure you get a reliable brand?

 

it was a holland and barratt brand.

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Posted : 05/29/2007 5:45 pm

Bleh, my face is starting to break out a little again. I can honestly say I've noticed nothing has changed on my face from the time I started taking o3, so the people that are worried on week 2, give it lots of time. Although some people are lucky and get better in those same 2 weeks :P

 

Also I think I might be getting new o3, the burping thing was worse today. lol.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/29/2007 6:06 pm

Well, I just finished going through my 2nd bottle of GNC Fish Oil (1000mg, 180 capsules) in about a little over 3 weeks, a new record. Unfortunately after about a month and a half of taking Fish Oil in various amounts (the most to date is 3.0 grams) I don't think I've seen much of an improvement on my oh-so-overabundant oil. If anything I've noticed that I have VERY slightly smoother skin and nothing else. I just finished buying my 3rd bottle, and I'm hoping that 3rd times a charm with this one, and I'll also be taking it in lesser amounts because I still fear for the potential damage I'm doing to my body and because...........I'm a very frugal person!!! If I see no results with this go around I'm possibly done with fish oil, and this is coming from a skinny guy who finds it hard to eat as much as he'd like and what he'd like, and has trouble gaining weight.

As of late I've been getting bad acne over the sides of my eyelids and less so on my chin, but aside from that negligable acne elsewhere. Oh and yeah..........I finally visited the derm on Thursday!!! 2 missed appointments later to boot!!! As I sat there waiting for him, I tried to remember all of the questions and concerns I had to ask him, especially about fish oil consumption. When I finally got to his office I first spoke with his assistant, this short, cute college student who seemed to be on an intership of some sort. I let her know pretty much everything off the top of my head including my fish oil consumption, but she had no comments for that and just wrote it down as I spoke. She only mentioned that I should use a lighter (liquiid) cleanser and some moisturizer for my face as I may be overwashing it with my current Purpose bar+exfoliating sponge regimen.

The derm then came in, we had a little small talk that ended with him prescribing me Ziana (night) and Benzaclin (morning), as I had mentioned many times during our convo that the previous BP I was prescribed (Duac Gel) took too long to absorb, made my face/pimples red and blotchy and most importantly MADE MY FACE WAY MORE OILY THAN IT ALREADY IS!!! So he prescribed me this, when I also told him that I'd like something that's not visible or greasy when applied during the day. Have any of you guys tried or used Benzaclin? How is it against oil and overall??? The derm mentioned that it has a "drying" effect.........

Both of these prescriptions (ESPECIALLY this "Ziana", which seems like a Retin-A Micro variant) are damn expensive as well.

That sucks to hear. Espcially how the derm gave you topicals. I think they do that so when you go back, and if they don't work, he can start giving you stronger medication till they get to accutane.

I'm glad you went to derm and sucks that this did not work at all. I can't really say what it is, it's obviously very possible it may take more time, or that it was something else, and not efa's at all. Or maybe it was so moderate/severe that you had to go through the medical route as some people, no matter how flawless everything is, nothing else works out for them you know?

Hope it all works out for you man.

 

Bleh, my face is starting to break out a little again. I can honestly say I've noticed nothing has changed on my face from the time I started taking o3, so the people that are worried on week 2, give it lots of time. Although some people are lucky and get better in those same 2 weeks 😛

Also I think I might be getting new o3, the burping thing was worse today. lol.

Damn, well there are some other things you can try. I noticed after adding in veggies, it's helped my skin quite a bit already. You may also try to see if certain foods are effecting you more than you think... like wheat or possibly other foods. If nothing eventually works, have you considered going to a derm? I know autonomous did, he's tried a lot and nothing seemed to work as much as he'd like to.

 

Just want to add that I've ditched all my topical meds. Right now I'm just washing my face and using witch hazel....I'm just relying on the fish oil right now for clear skin. This is how much I believe this is helping me.

It's interesting how some people, this is all they need, while others it doesn't do anything. I don't know why that happens, but I'm glad you are finding clearer skin through this.

 

so you want to get up to 2-3 grams when adding up the EPA and DHA, correct?

and how much is too much?

yes, added together 2 to 3 grams in total. I guess 'too much' is generally relative. But anywhere between 2 to 3 or even 3 to 4 should be fine honestly.

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(@dave-suave)

Posted : 05/29/2007 6:19 pm

I just bought some CVS Fish oil. Each soft gel has 1,000mg natural fish oil concentrate and the bottle says to take 1 soft gel 3x daily, so that is 3 grams. This isn't even including the EPA and DHA (omega 3), which is listed separately amounting to another gram for the day. With that being said, I will need to triple or quadruple the dosage to get 3-4 grams of omega 3. 350 soft gels a month?? The CVS brand is approved at consumerLab.com, but I'm considering on using the better value brands.

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Posted : 05/29/2007 6:27 pm

I just bought some CVS Fish oil. Each soft gel has 1,000mg natural fish oil concentrate and the bottle says to take 1 soft gel 3x daily, so that is 3 grams. This isn't even including the EPA and DHA (omega 3), which is listed separately amounting to another gram for the day. With that being said, I will need to triple or quadruple the dosage to get 3-4 grams of omega 3. 350 soft gels a month?? The CVS brand is approved at consumerLab.com, but I'm considering on using the better value brands.

Yeah, the cvs brand will work out pricey for you in the long run. The best thing to do is invest in the other brands listed (the sams, costco brand, or walmart brand) and it will work out cheap that way. Just be sure to start low and go up slow. And just remember, we usually speak in terms of the total amount of epa and dha, not the fish oil total quantity. Good luck

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Posted : 05/29/2007 6:29 pm

hey one more quick question i went online and i saw one called Fish Oil Concentrate Capsules, what does the concentrate part mean because all the others are just called fish oil capsules.

They just mean that there's more EPA and DHA per capsule. The norm is about 300mg total per capsule, but I saw some in Boots which had about 550mg per capsule. However I worked out that mg for mg they are more expensive than even their own standard Omega 3 capsules, so I didn't bother buying them!

What brand was it as you have to be careful to make sure you get a reliable brand?

 

it was a holland and barratt brand.

 

I use the Holland and Barratt brand, but just their regular strength one. Although you have to take more of them, it works out cheaper, gram for gram of Omega 3, to buy the regular strength ones.

To work out how much you should take, add the EPA and the DHA together. So, for mine it has 180mg of EPA and 120mg DHA = 300mg Omega 3 per capsules. If I wanted to take 3g of Omega 3, I would have to take 10 capsules (1000mg = 1g). If I wanted to take 3.6g of Omega 3, I would take 12 capsules. Start off at about 1g per day, spread evenly, and build your way up. I'm at about 3.6g each day and have noticed a good improvement. But it will probably take months for really good results.

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Posted : 05/29/2007 6:35 pm

Prior to starting on the fish oil, I had already been following an anti-inflammatory diet as detailed in Dr. Perricone Acne Prescription book. I started the diet as project for school. So, I was already familiar w/ the whole Omega-6 (pro-inflammatory) / Omega 3 (anti-inflammatory) deal. Anyway, just by chance I decided to start supplementing w/ fish oil...I started using Country Life brand then switched to Vital Choices upon the recommendation of my teacher and a classmate. That's when I started really clearing up. I think the quality of the brand is of utmost importance. I'm bursting w/ joy that this might finally be the key to my battle w/ acne for so many horrible years! Here is what I'm using: http://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/shop2.cfm?category=19

 

 

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(@waterboy24)

Posted : 05/29/2007 7:29 pm

GNC has Ultra strength fish body oils with 600mg of EPA and 240 mg of DHA would these be alright to take to cut down on the number of pills needed to reach the 3-4 gram target?

 

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=search

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(@dave-suave)

Posted : 05/29/2007 8:53 pm

Prior to starting on the fish oil, I had already been following an anti-inflammatory diet as detailed in Dr. Perricone Acne Prescription book. I started the diet as project for school. So, I was already familiar w/ the whole Omega-6 (pro-inflammatory) / Omega 3 (anti-inflammatory) deal. Anyway, just by chance I decided to start supplementing w/ fish oil...I started using Country Life brand then switched to Vital Choices upon the recommendation of my teacher and a classmate. That's when I started really clearing up. I think the quality of the brand is of utmost importance. I'm bursting w/ joy that this might finally be the key to my battle w/ acne for so many horrible years! Here is what I'm using: http://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/shop2.cfm?category=19

How much do you take?

I think we should list some scenarios on this thread. When to take the pills, and how many at a time. Things get a little tricky when computing cost and omega-3 content, especially when people start recommending higher quality stuff.

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(@weenie-beenie)

Posted : 05/29/2007 9:42 pm

I'm at about a month and a half of taking the fish oil. My face doesn't look extremely better or anything - I think there might be some slight improvement - but I'm not giving up until I reach the 3 month mark. If I hit 3 months and I don't notice any differences then yeah, obviously it's not working.

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Posted : 05/30/2007 12:37 am

Prior to starting on the fish oil, I had already been following an anti-inflammatory diet as detailed in Dr. Perricone Acne Prescription book. I started the diet as project for school. So, I was already familiar w/ the whole Omega-6 (pro-inflammatory) / Omega 3 (anti-inflammatory) deal. Anyway, just by chance I decided to start supplementing w/ fish oil...I started using Country Life brand then switched to Vital Choices upon the recommendation of my teacher and a classmate. That's when I started really clearing up. I think the quality of the brand is of utmost importance. I'm bursting w/ joy that this might finally be the key to my battle w/ acne for so many horrible years! Here is what I'm using: http://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/shop2.cfm?category=19

How much do you take?

I think we should list some scenarios on this thread. When to take the pills, and how many at a time. Things get a little tricky when computing cost and omega-3 content, especially when people start recommending higher quality stuff.

 

I'm taking 6 of the 1000 mg pills a day...2 at breakfast, 2 at lunch and 2 at dinner. I've been doing this for around 2 weeks now. I'm about 90% clear. I only wash my face at morning and night and clean with witch hazel. No topical meds anymore. The fish oil is doing it all. It's amazing...I really think the higher quality stuff really makes the difference. As I said before, I didn't notice a real difference in my skin until I switched to the better brand.

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(@daanzell)

Posted : 05/30/2007 4:38 am

Well Ive started on fish oil, however I have a couple of questions.

 

I've just started, so is it smart to only start with 2 capsules a day?

How do you recommend I up my dosages ?

 

By the way, the capsules I bought are 1000mg (300mg of EPA+DHA).

 

Is the brand I use good?

http://www.naturesown.com.au/prod_details.php?ID=0606

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(@bobby-digital)

Posted : 05/30/2007 1:00 pm

Im starting to wonder how the quality effects the results too. Ive gotten a different brand every time(which has been three times I think) and with this last one, I just haven't been doing quite as good and the pills/bottle smell way more fishy than any other ive had. I think im gonna get a new bottle and see how it affects me.

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(@lexica)

Posted : 05/30/2007 2:19 pm

Regarding fish oil for depression, in my experience the difference between how I feel when I'm taking the fish oil and how I feel when I'm not is almost as large a difference as the difference between how I feel when I'm taking my antidepressants and how I feel when I'm not. Seriously - it makes that big a difference.

 

I take the fish oil for depression, so it was an unexpected bonus to learn that it's also helping my skin. :D And it is, too - oil production on my face is normalizing, so the T-zone is less oily and my cheeks are less dry, and I'm having less trouble with blemishes on the backs of my arms.

 

For anyone who's dealing with depression, I highly (highly!) recommend The Depression Book: Depression as an Opportunity for Spiritual Growth by Cheri Huber. It's the first thing I've encountered in 20+ years of struggling with depression that managed to change my relationship to the depression.

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(@ramzey)

Posted : 05/30/2007 3:07 pm

I was reading the thread (I have read nealy all 94 pages over the space of a few days) and I am watching an MTV show called celebrity bodies, just to see all the buff birds to be honest.... And then LL Cool J is on it, and he is claiming the secret to his body is "the good fat omega 3 from flax oil, it gets rid of all the bad fat" ha ha ha ha ha, so even he realises it is a good thing, maybe he should read this thread and give up the inferior flax oil for fish oil aye??

 

I started taking 2.4g of O3 from 6 caps a week ago, dont see much happening so far but am about to up my dosage..............UK'S PAY ATTENTION!!!!

 

I noticed a few UK'ers are on here asking where they can get there fish oil from, holland and barret and boots etc etc.

 

Where the bloody hell have you lot been living??? Have you not ever heard about Seven Seas fish oil??? Its a national instituition for gods sake. It has been around since the dawn of time I remember my mum taking it when I was a kid.

 

It has the Queens Royal Seal of approval............SO if it's good enough for old lizzy, Its good enough for us. I bought some from Tesco yesterday (YES, you can get it from ANY supermarket). Check out the EPA and DHA content:

 

2300 Combined EPA and DHA!!!!!!!!!! Per 10 ml!!!!

 

I am going to take 20-30 ml (around full/semi full tablespoons) which will give me 5000-7000 mg a day!!!!!!!

 

Costs A4.45p, so pretty cheap in comparison, and the best part is you dont have to pop a million pills!!

 

Check it out people, we have the best one in the world in the UK, no doubt, from the company which has been doing this shit for decades, this is the one to get:

 

http://www.twoscompanydesign.com/clo/produ...h/xtrahsclo.htm

 

check out the cool flash at the home page too:

 

http://www.codliveroil.co.uk/

 

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(@ramzey)

Posted : 05/30/2007 3:29 pm

I am not a salesman for seven seas ......... honest :)

 

But check out their faq's page, infact check out the entire website as it backs up pretty much most of the stuff that has been written in this thread:

 

http://www.twoscompanydesign.com/clo/faqs/index.htm

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Posted : 05/30/2007 3:32 pm

Oh, and the much debated "Ideal Ratio" of Omega 6 to Omega 3 is 2:1 according to seven seas:

 

http://www.twoscompanydesign.com/clo/omega3/index.htm

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Posted : 05/30/2007 3:46 pm

Here is a rundown of my regimen...

 

 

Morning regimen:

 

Wash face with Balancing Facial Cleanser http://acnetreatment.stores.yahoo.net/balfacclean.html

 

Wash chest and back with sulfur based soap.

 

Cleanse face (sometimes back and chest) with Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera using cotton pads.

 

Makeup: Joppa Minerals Makeup www.joppaminerals.com

 

At breakfast take two 1,000 mg of Fish Oil and 1,000 mg of Ester-C

http://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/shop2.cfm?category=19#s50

 

Lunch: Take two 1,000 mg of Fish Oil and 1,000 mg of Ester-C

 

Dinner: Take two 1,000 mg of Fish Oil and 1,000 mg of Ester-C

 

Bedtime:

 

Wash face with Balancing Facial Cleanser.

 

Wash chest and back with sulfur based soap.

 

Cleanse face (sometimes back and chest) with Witch Hazel with Aloe Vera using cotton pads.

 

Diet: Eat an anti-inflammatory diet consisting of low-glycemic, antioxidant packed fruits and vegetables, lots of Wild Alaskan salmon, lean meats (grass-fed, hormone and antibiotic free). No wheat/gluten or processed, junk foods. And tons, tons of fresh spring water.

 

 

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/30/2007 5:09 pm

Sorry guys, I'm in summer school right now so I will be able to reply only one time out of the day to everyone. I'm taking 6 hours a day + excess work so it's hard to get some time but I'll try my best.

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(@anony-2)

Posted : 05/30/2007 5:16 pm

Sorry guys, I'm in summer school right now so I will be able to reply only one time out of the day to everyone. I'm taking 6 hours a day + excess work so it's hard to get some time but I'll try my best.

are you trying to graduate in 3 years?

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Posted : 05/30/2007 5:18 pm

I'm at about a month and a half of taking the fish oil. My face doesn't look extremely better or anything - I think there might be some slight improvement - but I'm not giving up until I reach the 3 month mark. If I hit 3 months and I don't notice any differences then yeah, obviously it's not working.

Make sure your diet is filled with great vegetables, especially zinc, vitamin A through E and K. I can't stress that enough.

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Posted : 05/30/2007 5:19 pm

I was reading the thread (I have read nealy all 94 pages over the space of a few days) and I am watching an MTV show called celebrity bodies, just to see all the buff birds to be honest.... And then LL Cool J is on it, and he is claiming the secret to his body is "the good fat omega 3 from flax oil, it gets rid of all the bad fat" ha ha ha ha ha, so even he realises it is a good thing, maybe he should read this thread and give up the inferior flax oil for fish oil aye??

I started taking 2.4g of O3 from 6 caps a week ago, dont see much happening so far but am about to up my dosage..............UK'S PAY ATTENTION!!!!

I noticed a few UK'ers are on here asking where they can get there fish oil from, holland and barret and boots etc etc.

Where the bloody hell have you lot been living??? Have you not ever heard about Seven Seas fish oil??? Its a national instituition for gods sake. It has been around since the dawn of time I remember my mum taking it when I was a kid.

It has the Queens Royal Seal of approval............SO if it's good enough for old lizzy, Its good enough for us. I bought some from Tesco yesterday (YES, you can get it from ANY supermarket). Check out the EPA and DHA content:

2300 Combined EPA and DHA!!!!!!!!!! Per 10 ml!!!!

I am going to take 20-30 ml (around full/semi full tablespoons) which will give me 5000-7000 mg a day!!!!!!!

Costs 4.45p, so pretty cheap in comparison, and the best part is you dont have to pop a million pills!!

Check it out people, we have the best one in the world in the UK, no doubt, from the company which has been doing this shit for decades, this is the one to get:

http://www.twoscompanydesign.com/clo/produ...h/xtrahsclo.htm

check out the cool flash at the home page too:

http://www.codliveroil.co.uk/

Seven Seas is a great brand, but please be aware of how much Vitamin A is in their capsules and liquid. One 10ml dose (of their concentrated cod liver oil) has 800IU which is the recommended daily allowance for the average person, so if you take more than one dose, which equates to 2.3g of Omega 3. If you decide to take more than this, you will be going over the recommended allowance of Vitamin A. Long term high levels of Vitamin A in your system can be dangerous, as your body stores it, rather than flushing it out when it has enough, like with other vitamins. This means that it builds up in your body over time and will take a log time to get rid of.

On another look at the website, several other products contain more Vitamin A than the concentrated fish oil, so you must be really careful about how much you are taking.

Good luck with the fish oil for your skin though, I hope you really see the benefits.

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Posted : 05/30/2007 5:21 pm

Sorry guys, I'm in summer school right now so I will be able to reply only one time out of the day to everyone. I'm taking 6 hours a day + excess work so it's hard to get some time but I'll try my best.

are you trying to graduate in 3 years?

 

Nope, just on time

 

GNC has Ultra strength fish body oils with 600mg of EPA and 240 mg of DHA would these be alright to take to cut down on the number of pills needed to reach the 3-4 gram target?

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=search

Yup, they seem fine, as long as you can afford it. GNC is expensive.

 

Oh, and the much debated "Ideal Ratio" of Omega 6 to Omega 3 is 2:1 according to seven seas:

http://www.twoscompanydesign.com/clo/omega3/index.htm

Yup, 1:1 more so... but just remember that 1:1 blood level takes between 3 to 6 months hence we tip it on the o3 side so it regulates faster. Eventually we can take less, a lot less.

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