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Posted : 06/06/2007 4:54 pm

for best results combine with the SSR

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(@bobby-digital)

Posted : 06/06/2007 6:12 pm

Im thinking about introducing green tea into my regimen. People have been worried that green tea interferes with fish oil in the past, and more recently people have been concerned about ACV. It seems to me that this is a misunderstanding. This never made sense to me before...things shouldn't just be "burned up" in your body. I heard another explanation today, and it seems that if anything, green tea or ACV should help make sure fish oil is being used efficiently in your body.

 

Romeo, you used green tea for a while then quit because you thought it was interfering with the fish oil, correct? When you stopped it, you thought you saw an improvement, right? Im wondering, are you 100% sure about that? I know its easy to think something is helping my face when its really not. Could it have just been the improvement of the effects of the fish oil over time? Because if I remember correctly, you used green tea relatively early in the fish oil regimen, and im pretty sure that you, like I, started to see the best results around the 3 month mark.

 

Why am I bringing all this up? I think i've pretty much come to the conclusion that my acne is hormonal. Nothing to do with my diet has ever stopped my breakouts. Obviously nothing topical has ever stopped my breakouts. Hormones are the only thing I cant really control. Even abstinence cant control it(at least in my experience) because(and I think Romeo had a similar idea) if I already have some kind of hormonal imbalance, my sexual habits dont really matter.

 

This isn't one of my bad check-ins where i've had a bad breakout or something. In fact im doing pretty well right now...i've managed to get my scarring/red marks to start fading much quicker and my face is looking much better because of it...however I still cant eliminate breakouts(and these are still much improved and weaker due to the fish oil). Perhaps I never will, and im willing to accept that, but since i've kinda narrowed it down to being hormonal, I wanna do all I can in that department to help my face. Fish oil has helped dramatically, its been a miracle, but green tea is supposed to help with hormones too and im thinking that theres no reason not to use it with fish oil and that theres been a misunderstading about metabolism.

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(@bronco)

Posted : 06/06/2007 6:18 pm

Hi everyone! So, I'm yet another person that has just begun taking fish oil. I was actually taking 1 pill a day all last year, not realizing that this was far too little to make any difference. Anyway, I've been taking about 3 grams of the Spring Valley brand fish oil pills (Walmart brand) for about a week now and my face has actually gotten a little worse. I have 2 new breakouts since I began. Is an initial breakout normal? Or does this mean I am doing something wrong? I also take a multivitamin pill, vitamin e, and about 40mg of zinc. I also have a couple questions about the zinc... is 40mg enough? Or should I be taking more? Also, the pills I have are zinc gluconate, is this the right kind? I use cetaphil facewash, and alternate moisturizers between complex 15 and neutrogena with aha, and once in a while I use Dan's bp. My skin seems to be a combination of dry and oily. Any suggestions based on my regimen along with answers to my questions would be greatly appreciated!

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(@babadum)

Posted : 06/06/2007 9:41 pm

I'm getting back into fish oil pills today. I ate 14 pills is that too much? The brand is Nature made.

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(@kev-genogmail-com)

Posted : 06/06/2007 9:46 pm

My salmon oil supplement is finishing soon and I'm thinking of changing to fish oil because it's cheaper. Could you guys recommend me a few good brands for fish oil? I live in malaysia and I'm not sure if the ones you get in america are available here, so please try to recommend a few. :)

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 06/06/2007 9:55 pm

Im thinking about introducing green tea into my regimen. People have been worried that green tea interferes with fish oil in the past, and more recently people have been concerned about ACV. It seems to me that this is a misunderstanding. This never made sense to me before...things shouldn't just be "burned up" in your body. I heard another explanation today, and it seems that if anything, green tea or ACV should help make sure fish oil is being used efficiently in your body.

Romeo, you used green tea for a while then quit because you thought it was interfering with the fish oil, correct? When you stopped it, you thought you saw an improvement, right? Im wondering, are you 100% sure about that? I know its easy to think something is helping my face when its really not. Could it have just been the improvement of the effects of the fish oil over time? Because if I remember correctly, you used green tea relatively early in the fish oil regimen, and im pretty sure that you, like I, started to see the best results around the 3 month mark.

Why am I bringing all this up? I think i've pretty much come to the conclusion that my acne is hormonal. Nothing to do with my diet has ever stopped my breakouts. Obviously nothing topical has ever stopped my breakouts. Hormones are the only thing I cant really control. Even abstinence cant control it(at least in my experience) because(and I think Romeo had a similar idea) if I already have some kind of hormonal imbalance, my sexual habits dont really matter.

This isn't one of my bad check-ins where i've had a bad breakout or something. In fact im doing pretty well right now...i've managed to get my scarring/red marks to start fading much quicker and my face is looking much better because of it...however I still cant eliminate breakouts(and these are still much improved and weaker due to the fish oil). Perhaps I never will, and im willing to accept that, but since i've kinda narrowed it down to being hormonal, I wanna do all I can in that department to help my face. Fish oil has helped dramatically, its been a miracle, but green tea is supposed to help with hormones too and im thinking that theres no reason not to use it with fish oil and that theres been a misunderstading about metabolism.

Hey there, I was trying to find a link to a thread that me and lorrie were talking in. We found some studies, as well as some articles that talked about how it worked in detail. I can't find it, so I will sum it up for you from what I remembered. Green tea (including it's components of course) work in a couple ways in terms of fat: 1) through thermogenesis (which isn't why it interferes with fish oil) and 2) by blocking 40% of dietary fat intake, preventing that much from being absorbed. And the levels we were taking it, matched the levels in which the study was conducted (10 cups worth+).

Try it out and keep monitoring your progress, it's a powerful substance, maybe you can try taking it in different time frames. Another note that I remember reading is how long it takes for it to "wear off". I can't remember what it was, but something on how long it's effect lasts. It was something along the line of four to six hours. After reading that, I remember seeing how someone mentioned how they were advised to take it after every x hours, which fell in that time frame.

I know this is all vague, but until I can find the links again, I hope it is enough. So it's not credible, but hopefully it helps.

I do know, however, that it's powerful by itself. It even may be worth your while to take it without fish oil and see how it does in comparison, or even together, and at different times. The more experimenting the better, just keep us posted. Because with green tea alone, it's helped several people reduce their acne, but not completely eliminate it. Much like the case of the man with severe acne who stopped his cystic acne from taking a few trials of it. That was intriguing!

You are correct, it is quite easy to be unsure if it was or was not the effect of stopping it. From what I can remember, is that within a day or so of stopping, I did have a notable response. I also remember some people telling me how they stopped and it happened to them. It could also be in our heads, it's very hard to tell as it was not really drastic, or anything like so. So try it out, see if you can possibly see any difference. I had taken it, for about 7 weeks I believe, it felt like it was working for quite a while, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe what you said... the continual results of the fish oil itself over time? It's so hard to tell when we combine things at times you know, coupled with what acne does to our minds sometimes... mixed with hope, it really does a number heh!

But if you try it, please keep us updated and tell us what you do!

 

My salmon oil supplement is finishing soon and I'm thinking of changing to fish oil because it's cheaper. Could you guys recommend me a few good brands for fish oil? I live in malaysia and I'm not sure if the ones you get in america are available here, so please try to recommend a few. 🙂

Oh wow 🙁 I am not sure how I may be of any help, since you are in Malaysia and the brands may not be available. But from the top of my head, I believe the brands people use most here are carlson, nordic naturals, member's mark, walmart brand, the costco brand, puritan's pride, and some others (I can't recall 100%). Oh and nature's made!

If you find any brands available to you, post the link and we can see if we can advise it based on what we know of it perhaps.

 

I'm getting back into fish oil pills today. I ate 14 pills is that too much? The brand is Nature made.

If you feel fine, then nope... but if you were used to taking nothing for a long time, then went to that much... that can pose a risk, but chances are you would feel weird right now... really weak. But if you feel fine, you are fine 🙂

 

Hi everyone! So, I'm yet another person that has just begun taking fish oil. I was actually taking 1 pill a day all last year, not realizing that this was far too little to make any difference. Anyway, I've been taking about 3 grams of the Spring Valley brand fish oil pills (Walmart brand) for about a week now and my face has actually gotten a little worse. I have 2 new breakouts since I began. Is an initial breakout normal? Or does this mean I am doing something wrong? I also take a multivitamin pill, vitamin e, and about 40mg of zinc. I also have a couple questions about the zinc... is 40mg enough? Or should I be taking more? Also, the pills I have are zinc gluconate, is this the right kind? I use cetaphil facewash, and alternate moisturizers between complex 15 and neutrogena with aha, and once in a while I use Dan's bp. My skin seems to be a combination of dry and oily. Any suggestions based on my regimen along with answers to my questions would be greatly appreciated!

Yes, there is one thing I notice. You said you are taking 3 grams of fish oil... meaning 3 pills correct? Let me know, because if so, then you are doing it a bit wrong =) It's 3 grams of omega 3, not 3 grams of fish oil. The difference is that each gram of fish oil contains X amount of omega 3... most likely 300 mg. To find out, read the EPA and DHA content on the back and add it up. That gives you the o3 amount. But go up slowly... 1 gram of o3 first week, then move up slowly. See how that goes.

40 mg of zinc is perfect. gluconate is what you want as well 🙂 So that is fine.

Also, take vit E if you don't, that helps alot. And a good source of vit A, carrots more than likely, vit A is essential for skin health, if you want to know just ask, or google it =) You'll see why pretty fast.

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Posted : 06/07/2007 12:45 am

Hey there, I was trying to find a link to a thread that me and lorrie were talking in. We found some studies, as well as some articles that talked about how it worked in detail. I can't find it, so I will sum it up for you from what I remembered. Green tea (including it's components of course) work in a couple ways in terms of fat: 1) through thermogenesis (which isn't why it interferes with fish oil) and 2) by blocking 40% of dietary fat intake, preventing that much from being absorbed. And the levels we were taking it, matched the levels in which the study was conducted (10 cups worth+).

Try it out and keep monitoring your progress, it's a powerful substance, maybe you can try taking it in different time frames. Another note that I remember reading is how long it takes for it to "wear off". I can't remember what it was, but something on how long it's effect lasts. It was something along the line of four to six hours. After reading that, I remember seeing how someone mentioned how they were advised to take it after every x hours, which fell in that time frame.

I know this is all vague, but until I can find the links again, I hope it is enough. So it's not credible, but hopefully it helps.

I do know, however, that it's powerful by itself. It even may be worth your while to take it without fish oil and see how it does in comparison, or even together, and at different times. The more experimenting the better, just keep us posted. Because with green tea alone, it's helped several people reduce their acne, but not completely eliminate it. Much like the case of the man with severe acne who stopped his cystic acne from taking a few trials of it. That was intriguing!

You are correct, it is quite easy to be unsure if it was or was not the effect of stopping it. From what I can remember, is that within a day or so of stopping, I did have a notable response. I also remember some people telling me how they stopped and it happened to them. It could also be in our heads, it's very hard to tell as it was not really drastic, or anything like so. So try it out, see if you can possibly see any difference. I had taken it, for about 7 weeks I believe, it felt like it was working for quite a while, maybe it was coincidence, or maybe what you said... the continual results of the fish oil itself over time? It's so hard to tell when we combine things at times you know, coupled with what acne does to our minds sometimes... mixed with hope, it really does a number heh!

But if you try it, please keep us updated and tell us what you do!

Dont worry about the links, i'll take your word for it.

One thing though, is that you and some of the other people were taking the supplements if I remember correctly, and therefore were taking a lot of green tea. Im thinking of actually drinking it, a cup or maybe more a day, and seeing how that works. Because I dont necessarily need something drastic, at this point im not needing dramatic improvement, just something that helps a little. If I was only to drink a cup or so, perhaps that 40% fat cut in wouldn't matter as much, especially if the green tea turned out to help quite a bit.

I'll probably pick some up in the next couple days and try it out and i'll keep posted.

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Posted : 06/07/2007 4:36 am

My salmon oil supplement is finishing soon and I'm thinking of changing to fish oil because it's cheaper. Could you guys recommend me a few good brands for fish oil? I live in malaysia and I'm not sure if the ones you get in america are available here, so please try to recommend a few. 🙂

Oh wow 🙁 I am not sure how I may be of any help, since you are in Malaysia and the brands may not be available. But from the top of my head, I believe the brands people use most here are carlson, nordic naturals, member's mark, walmart brand, the costco brand, puritan's pride, and some others (I can't recall 100%). Oh and nature's made!

If you find any brands available to you, post the link and we can see if we can advise it based on what we know of it perhaps.

 

Okay thanks! 🙂

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(@bronco)

Posted : 06/07/2007 9:17 am

Yes, there is one thing I notice. You said you are taking 3 grams of fish oil... meaning 3 pills correct? Let me know, because if so, then you are doing it a bit wrong =) It's 3 grams of omega 3, not 3 grams of fish oil. The difference is that each gram of fish oil contains X amount of omega 3... most likely 300 mg. To find out, read the EPA and DHA content on the back and add it up. That gives you the o3 amount. But go up slowly... 1 gram of o3 first week, then move up slowly. See how that goes.

40 mg of zinc is perfect. gluconate is what you want as well 🙂 So that is fine.

Also, take vit E if you don't, that helps alot. And a good source of vit A, carrots more than likely, vit A is essential for skin health, if you want to know just ask, or google it =) You'll see why pretty fast.

Oops! I meant to say 3 grams of omega 3, I just mispoke. But thanks for the reassurance about everything else and I will try adding carrots to my diet. When I did jump from 1 pill to about 10, I did it over a few days. Was that too fast and could that have something to do with why I had a couple break outs?

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Posted : 06/07/2007 1:49 pm

Mine should be running out in the next week or so. I'll probably be picking up some of those Nature Made that femme and everyone else keeps talking about. 🙂

if you have a CVS by you I def suggest picking up the bottle of 150's, the odorless ones...ASAP (since the sale may only go til sunday?) They're $21 for the bottle but since it's B1G1 Free, you'll technically be getting 300 for $21. CHEAP.

 

I could only find these. They are the only ones that say 150. Odorless would be wonderful and no fish burps even nicer. 🙂

Thanks much! 🙂

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Posted : 06/07/2007 1:57 pm

Mine should be running out in the next week or so. I'll probably be picking up some of those Nature Made that femme and everyone else keeps talking about. 🙂

if you have a CVS by you I def suggest picking up the bottle of 150's, the odorless ones...ASAP (since the sale may only go til sunday?) They're $21 for the bottle but since it's B1G1 Free, you'll technically be getting 300 for $21. CHEAP.

 

I could only find these. They are the only ones that say 150. Odorless would be wonderful and no fish burps even nicer. 🙂

Thanks much! 🙂

 

CVS doesnt run the same specials in-store as they do online. Do you have a store anywhere near you? If not, order these since they're half off, not quite as great of a deal but you can get four bottles (240 pills) for about $20. Still way better in price than a lot of others around! and these are the no-fish-burps kind 😀

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Posted : 06/07/2007 5:45 pm

if anyone is interested in getting 2 fish-oil pills free... http://www.naturesbounty.com/fishOil/fishOil.aspx

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Posted : 06/07/2007 5:53 pm

if anyone is interested in getting 2 fish-oil pills free... http://www.naturesbounty.com/fishOil/fishOil.aspx 😆

😆 😆 nice find!! seriously!!

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Posted : 06/07/2007 7:00 pm

Mine should be running out in the next week or so. I'll probably be picking up some of those Nature Made that femme and everyone else keeps talking about. 🙂

if you have a CVS by you I def suggest picking up the bottle of 150's, the odorless ones...ASAP (since the sale may only go til sunday?) They're $21 for the bottle but since it's B1G1 Free, you'll technically be getting 300 for $21. CHEAP.

 

I could only find these. They are the only ones that say 150. Odorless would be wonderful and no fish burps even nicer. 🙂

Thanks much! 🙂

 

CVS doesnt run the same specials in-store as they do online. Do you have a store anywhere near you? If not, order these since they're half off, not quite as great of a deal but you can get four bottles (240 pills) for about $20. Still way better in price than a lot of others around! and these are the no-fish-burps kind 😀

 

I have one near my work, during break tomorrow I'll see if I can check those out. How can I be sure I'm getting the right one? The one that has 150 softgels? Would you happen to have a company name, that'd be most appreciated 🙂

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Posted : 06/07/2007 7:20 pm

if anyone is interested in getting 2 fish-oil pills free... http://www.naturesbounty.com/fishOil/fishOil.aspx 😆

😆 😆 nice find!! seriously!!

 

😉 there is actually more 'free' offers out there for fish-oil, just most you have to pay shipping which is usually jacked up to compromise for the free fish oil in the first place. just a tip when searching for the freebies

EDIT: Buy one get one free at drugstore.com for fish oil Sundown vitamins scroll down, next to fish oil in quantity put '2' check mark the box go down to the bottom, click on purchase items and it will show in your checkout bag that there are 2 fish oil bottles, but only being charged for one (12.99)

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(@listerine2)

Posted : 06/08/2007 12:51 am

Guys.. I'm up to 7.2g of o3 a day. been taking o3 for about 5 weeks. been taking zinc for about 2 weeks. Should I increase up to 8 or 9g or just stay at 7. I haven't seen much improvement in my skin since after 4g. What should I do?

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(@nl_020)

Posted : 06/08/2007 3:24 am

Guys.. I'm up to 7.2g of o3 a day. been taking o3 for about 5 weeks. been taking zinc for about 2 weeks. Should I increase up to 8 or 9g or just stay at 7. I haven't seen much improvement in my skin since after 4g. What should I do?

If I were you I'd be taking half of what you are doing now as an absolute maximum. 4g of O3 is already a really, really high dosage and I don't think you should be experimenting with stuff like that without any doctor's consult.

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(@thebaron)

Posted : 06/08/2007 4:37 am

^ I agree, I've found Nordic Naturals EPA which contains about 1.25 grams of Omega 3's (thats not the other fishy goodness, its the omega 3 content PER capsule) which I take 2 of everyday to get 2.5 grams of O3. I'm thinking about upping to three capsules, but as for right now I'm very happy with the skin/mood benefits of only 2 a day. :D

 

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Posted : 06/08/2007 7:39 am

^ I agree, I've found Nordic Naturals EPA which contains about 1.25 grams of Omega 3's (thats not the other fishy goodness, its the omega 3 content PER capsule) which I take 2 of everyday to get 2.5 grams of O3. I'm thinking about upping to three capsules, but as for right now I'm very happy with the skin/mood benefits of only 2 a day. 😀

I dont think theres any single capsule that delivers that much omega 3. From their website it looks like the best EPA one they do has 768mg of O3 in it (Epa Xtra). They tell you the amount in 2 capsules so it looks better than everyone else's - i always think doing that is a sale's "slight of hand" it's not wrong, but it makes people think there better. But that aside, if it's working for you on only 2 a day, stick with it!

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Posted : 06/08/2007 7:46 am

I have one near my work, during break tomorrow I'll see if I can check those out. How can I be sure I'm getting the right one? The one that has 150 softgels? Would you happen to have a company name, that'd be most appreciated 🙂

They look like those ^ make sure they say "no fish burps" in the little purple star thingee (which also means odorless, which is in green on the label too). CVS has a big ol' vitamin section and you'll see a huge mass of yellow bottles, those are them (company name is Nature Made)

It comes in two sizes, 150 softgels and 60 softgels. So long as your CVS is running the same promo as mine, the buy-one, get-one-free, grab the 150 bottle, it'll save ya lots!

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(@ami24)

Posted : 06/08/2007 2:32 pm

I stayed at 3.5g for awhile, upped it to 4g and then went back down to 3.5 because I didn't notice any more of a difference (i gave it about 2 weeks).

 

Anybody getting discouraged out there with the fish oil? i must say it's definitely helped my acne. cystic acne is much more rare for me but the fact that i still break out in teeny flesh-colored bumps has gotten me still discouraged. my skin is not smooth because of this. How much time do we have to give fish oil to say we've reached the maximum benefits? Romeo, was it 6 months minimum you said?

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(@ariventa)

Posted : 06/08/2007 3:14 pm

I stayed at 3.5g for awhile, upped it to 4g and then went back down to 3.5 because I didn't notice any more of a difference (i gave it about 2 weeks).

Anybody getting discouraged out there with the fish oil? i must say it's definitely helped my acne. cystic acne is much more rare for me but the fact that i still break out in teeny flesh-colored bumps has gotten me still discouraged. my skin is not smooth because of this. How much time do we have to give fish oil to say we've reached the maximum benefits? Romeo, was it 6 months minimum you said?

Sounds like the fish oil is taking care of the inflammation. If you are just getting mostly flesh colored bumps, those are clogged pores. Fish oil or may or may not erradicate those since that is a keratinaization issue and is much more difficult to correct. You need exfolitaion to get rid of them and them you may be clear. If you want topicals, a simple AHA may work like lactic or glycolic acid or skin brushing using a facial brush.

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(@plzwrkfishoil)

Posted : 06/08/2007 9:23 pm

I've now gone through 3 bottles of fish oil pills, and have seen no effect on oil or acne what so ever in my case. Good luck to those that continue to use it with success, but i'm not gonna keep swallowing 12-15 pills a day for nothing anymore.

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Posted : 06/08/2007 10:52 pm

100th page! :D

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 06/09/2007 2:11 am

I've now gone through 3 bottles of fish oil pills, and have seen no effect on oil or acne what so ever in my case. Good luck to those that continue to use it with success, but i'm not gonna keep swallowing 12-15 pills a day for nothing anymore.

Instead of ditching it all together, just take a small dose, and focus on other parts of your diet that you are lacking in and be sure you are getting everything else. If you still see no effect, put digestive enzymes into the mix to ensure you really are digesting and assimilating all the nutrients, including the fish oil.

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