Me i have to keep it in between, keep that equilibrium....

Last few months ive been experimenting with diets also.

I can corelate to this topic and say low fat diet clears me also. Im just a week fat free and 4 days clear.
In addition to dairy free diet that cleared my back i also decreased my gluten intake, even if it seems gluten doesnt break me out i got used to corn/rice pasta.

What i eat now is high carb high protein low fat diet that consists of rolled oats, unsweetened almond milk, dairy free protein powder, tuna canned in water, chicken, gluten free pasta, alot of sweet potatoes, ham, vegetables, beans, fruits. I add olive oil in my cooking and salad but in sparce quanity.
I supplement Fish oil, magnesium and multivitamin.

The oil from what you eat is different from the oil of your skin. The oil on your skin does not produce acne either, as you can have oily skin and not acne. There is a collection of things that happen when you get acne. Fats are very important to absorb soluble vitamins, like vitamin A, D and K, that are vital to help your body fight the aftermath of acne so you do not scar. You also need A and D to fight acne in the first place so you need fats. That is why you need to take Accutane (a kind of vitamin A) with a fatty meal.

For everyone that are thinking of trying this, it is not a good idea to experiment by removing fats, carbs or proteins. Eat organic/local whole foods instead with lots of veggies, fruits and quality meats. You can try to eat beef liver for the vitamin A. I implore you to seek professional advice before going into veganism or other extreme diets so you know you get everything you need. Veganism does not only lack B12 and Zinc but other B vitamins, as well as retinol (as Accutane is made up of it), Selenium (proven to help acne) and choline. Furthermore, It is not clear whether supplements contribute the same quality of vitamins/minerals as food does. Also, supplements are not regulated to you will never be sure if you are getting enough/or any.

However, it must be noted that some might do very well on these diets but there is no telling what the long term effects will be. Furthermore, you need fats to absorb certain vitamins, so you need to think of what the long term effects will be when you are no longer absorbing them.

9 hours ago, il90 said:

The oil from what you eat is different from the oil of your skin. The oil on your skin does not produce acne either, as you can have oily skin and not acne. There is a collection of things that happen when you get acne. Fats are very important to absorb soluble vitamins, like vitamin A, D and K, that are vital to help your body fight the aftermath of acne so you do not scar. You also need A and D to fight acne in the first place so you need fats. That is why you need to take Accutane (a kind of vitamin A) with a fatty meal.

For everyone that are thinking of trying this, it is not a good idea to experiment by removing fats, carbs or proteins. Eat organic/local whole foods instead with lots of veggies, fruits and quality meats. You can try to eat beef liver for the vitamin A. I implore you to seek professional advice before going into veganism or other extreme diets so you know you get everything you need. Veganism does not only lack B12 and Zinc but other B vitamins, as well as retinol (as Accutane is made up of it), Selenium (proven to help acne) and choline. Furthermore, It is not clear whether supplements contribute the same quality of vitamins/minerals as food does. Also, supplements are not regulated to you will never be sure if you are getting enough/or any.

However, it must be noted that some might do very well on these diets but there is no telling what the long term effects will be. Furthermore, you need fats to absorb certain vitamins, so you need to think of what the long term effects will be when you are no longer absorbing them.

I agree that oily skin does not = acne only if pores are not being blocked by dead skin cells. People with acne prone skin suffer from retention hyperkeratosis, so oil will not help the problem. I just recently started using Retin-A again to treat hyperkeratosis. When I used it in the past I had oily skin but was acne free.

BTW, low fat diet does not mean not eating any fat. I eat a variety of different foods to get all of the vitamins and minerals I need. A vegan diet is only extreme to you because majority eat meat and you are brainwashed to believe we need it to be healthy.

Lol this is neither a win or lose situation but both of you are right, you dont need it but that is questionable and yes to anyone whos wants to do any diet go seek professional help not people online

1 hour ago, veganbat94 said:

I agree that oily skin does not = acne only if pores are not being blocked by dead skin cells. People with acne prone skin suffer from retention hyperkeratosis, so oil will not help the problem. I just recently started using Retin-A again to treat hyperkeratosis. When I used it in the past I had oily skin but was acne free.

BTW, low fat diet does not mean not eating any fat. I eat a variety of different foods to get all of the vitamins and minerals I need. A vegan diet is only extreme to you because majority eat meat and you are brainwashed to believe we need it to be healthy.

I have been vegan myself. I know from experience that you need meat once or twice a week. Trying to get all vitamins/minerals from a vegan diet is exhausting. I'm not sure this can be called 'brainwashed.'

Don't worry you can continue eating whatever you want however I want people to understand that being vegan does not equal acne-free. However, a plant based organic whole food diet can do wonders for acne. Also, if people should go down this road they need to know how serious it is to control vitamin/mineral uptake. There is no proof that your acne came from eating fats, as correlation does not imply causation.

I'm pretty sure the fats daily requirement takes into account what you need to absorb certain vitamins/minerals, so it does matter if you are eating 10% of this amount. You don't just need a little bit of fats you need a specific % everyday which you now have decided against. This is your choice however I am offering everyone a second opinion on the matter.

32 minutes ago, il90 said:

I have been vegan myself. I know from experience that you need meat once or twice a week. Trying to get all vitamins/minerals from a vegan diet is exhausting. I'm not sure this can be called 'brainwashed.'

Don't worry you can continue eating whatever you want however I want people to understand that being vegan does not equal acne-free. However, a plant based organic whole food diet can do wonders for acne. Also, if people should go down this road they need to know how serious it is to control vitamin/mineral uptake. There is no proof that your acne came from eating fats, as correlation does not imply causation.

I'm pretty sure the fats daily requirement takes into account what you need to absorb certain vitamins/minerals, so it does matter if you are eating 10% of this amount. You don't just need a little bit of fats you need a specific % everyday which you now have decided against. This is your choice however I am offering everyone a second opinion on the matter.

That's your experience on a plant based diet. From my experience my skin breaks out when I eat oil and a lot of fat. I know others who react the same. So I can say a low fat plant based diet can do wonders for acne just like you can say that about a different diet that happens to work for you.

How you doing veganbat? Found any safe fat source?

On 9/2/2016 at 5:25 PM, il90 said:

I have been vegan myself. I know from experience that you need meat once or twice a week. Trying to get all vitamins/minerals from a vegan diet is exhausting. I'm not sure this can be called 'brainwashed.'

Don't worry you can continue eating whatever you want however I want people to understand that being vegan does not equal acne-free. However, a plant based organic whole food diet can do wonders for acne. Also, if people should go down this road they need to know how serious it is to control vitamin/mineral uptake. There is no proof that your acne came from eating fats, as correlation does not imply causation.

I'm pretty sure the fats daily requirement takes into account what you need to absorb certain vitamins/minerals, so it does matter if you are eating 10% of this amount. You don't just need a little bit of fats you need a specific % everyday which you now have decided against. This is your choice however I am offering everyone a second opinion on the matter.

I have a similar viewpoint. I was vegan for a year and my skin & hair went crazy after the first 6 months. Everything got oily and I started breaking out. I think I really threw my body out of whack. My skin is much better now but still not where it was before all of this. Medications from the doc and returning to a normal diet after 1 year of being vegan have helped tremendously. I remember when I was initially asking for advice from the vegan community and they told me to try low fat. I just remember thinking "My skin was fine before I was vegan. Now it's messed up and they are saying the answer is to restrict myself even more but cutting down on fats? I don't think so". I don't hate vegansim, but it's not for everyone. It really screwed with my system & hormones. I believe, as you said, a healthy, balanced diet that includes bits of all the food groups is important.

12 hours ago, kelbell812 said:

I have a similar viewpoint. I was vegan for a year and my skin & hair went crazy after the first 6 months. Everything got oily and I started breaking out. I think I really threw my body out of whack. My skin is much better now but still not where it was before all of this. Medications from the doc and returning to a normal diet after 1 year of being vegan have helped tremendously. I remember when I was initially asking for advice from the vegan community and they told me to try low fat. I just remember thinking "My skin was fine before I was vegan. Now it's messed up and they are saying the answer is to restrict myself even more but cutting down on fats? I don't think so". I don't hate vegansim, but it's not for everyone. It really screwed with my system & hormones. I believe, as you said, a healthy, balanced diet that includes bits of all the food groups is important.

The fact that you felt restricted on a vegan diet is probably because you were not eating enough which can definitely screw with your system and hormones. This is common for beginners going from a high calorie meat diet to a plant based one. I have been vegan for 2 and 1/2 years, eating a low fat (not below 30% fat), high carb diet and my skin was in great condition. It's only after increasing my fat intake that my skin broke out badly.

10 hours ago, veganbat94 said:

23 hours ago, kelbell812 said:

I have a similar viewpoint. I was vegan for a year and my skin & hair went crazy after the first 6 months. Everything got oily and I started breaking out. I think I really threw my body out of whack. My skin is much better now but still not where it was before all of this. Medications from the doc and returning to a normal diet after 1 year of being vegan have helped tremendously. I remember when I was initially asking for advice from the vegan community and they told me to try low fat. I just remember thinking "My skin was fine before I was vegan. Now it's messed up and they are saying the answer is to restrict myself even more but cutting down on fats? I don't think so". I don't hate vegansim, but it's not for everyone. It really screwed with my system & hormones. I believe, as you said, a healthy, balanced diet that includes bits of all the food groups is important.

The fact that you felt restricted on a vegan diet is probably because you were not eating enough which can definitely screw with your system and hormones. This is common for beginners going from a high calorie meat diet to a plant based one. I have been vegan for 2 and 1/2 years, eating a low fat (not below 30% fat), high carb diet and my skin was in great condition. It's only after increasing my fat intake that my skin broke out badly.

Lol nope, I was eating plenty. Like literally plenty. That's not what restriction means. I didn't say I felt restricted because I couldn't eat enough. Restriction means not having many choices when going out to eat with friends, or not being able to eat most of the food at potlucks, or always having to bring your own food to a friends house because their family doesn't have anything for you to eat, and always having to check ingredients and never being able to order take-out Chinese with your friends or grab an ice cream cone because there are no vegan options. I could go on and on. Yeah, there are substitutes for everything at the store, but not out and about at other people's houses and restaurants.

I feel like whenever someone says they didn't like veganism, the cop-out response by the community is "You weren't eating enough" or "You were doing it wrong", rather than just being open-minded and saying "Hey, maybe it just doesn't work for everyone". No diet should be designed so that if you don't do it absolutely "correct", then you will develop health issues. That's exactly what the other girl was saying in that you have to be extra aware of making sure you are getting enough of everything.

And I don't consider a year of eating a certain way as being a "beginner". You shouldn't have to wait years to see the effects of changing your diet.

2 hours ago, kelbell812 said:

Lol nope, I was eating plenty. Like literally plenty. That's not what restriction means. I didn't say I felt restricted because I couldn't eat enough. Restriction means not having many choices when going out to eat with friends, or not being able to eat most of the food at potlucks, or always having to bring your own food to a friends house because their family doesn't have anything for you to eat, and always having to check ingredients and never being able to order take-out Chinese with your friends or grab an ice cream cone because there are no vegan options. I could go on and on. Yeah, there are substitutes for everything at the store, but not out and about at other people's houses and restaurants.

I feel like whenever someone says they didn't like veganism, the cop-out response by the community is "You weren't eating enough" or "You were doing it wrong", rather than just being open-minded and saying "Hey, maybe it just doesn't work for everyone". No diet should be designed so that if you don't do it absolutely "correct", then you will develop health issues. That's exactly what the other girl was saying in that you have to be extra aware of making sure you are getting enough of everything.

And I don't consider a year of eating a certain way as being a "beginner". You shouldn't have to wait years to see the effects of changing your diet.

Doesn't sound like you're into eating healthy all that much if you went back to eating foods that contribute to the leading causes of death because you weren't able to eat a burger with friends. That explains why your hair was falling out. Could have simply tweaked your diet so you were getting enough iron.

3 hours ago, veganbat94 said:

6 hours ago, kelbell812 said:

Lol nope, I was eating plenty. Like literally plenty. That's not what restriction means. I didn't say I felt restricted because I couldn't eat enough. Restriction means not having many choices when going out to eat with friends, or not being able to eat most of the food at potlucks, or always having to bring your own food to a friends house because their family doesn't have anything for you to eat, and always having to check ingredients and never being able to order take-out Chinese with your friends or grab an ice cream cone because there are no vegan options. I could go on and on. Yeah, there are substitutes for everything at the store, but not out and about at other people's houses and restaurants.

I feel like whenever someone says they didn't like veganism, the cop-out response by the community is "You weren't eating enough" or "You were doing it wrong", rather than just being open-minded and saying "Hey, maybe it just doesn't work for everyone". No diet should be designed so that if you don't do it absolutely "correct", then you will develop health issues. That's exactly what the other girl was saying in that you have to be extra aware of making sure you are getting enough of everything.

And I don't consider a year of eating a certain way as being a "beginner". You shouldn't have to wait years to see the effects of changing your diet.

Doesn't sound like you're into eating healthy all that much if you went back to eating foods that contribute to the leading causes of death because you weren't able to eat a burger with friends. That explains why your hair was falling out. Could have simply tweaked your diet so you were getting enough iron.

Well that's fine if you want to think that way, but you don't need to be vegan to be healthy at all. Been happy and healthy for most of my life on a balanced diet! Also, who said anything about my hair falling out? Don't know where you got that from.

A balanced diet is key without the process bullshit, paleo diet, vegan lifestyle or any diet suits the body that consumes it on a daily basis without any problems. but one diet will not suit with everyone's bodies.

On 14.09.2016 at 4:17 AM, veganbat94 said:

eating a low fat (not below 30% fat),

Lmao, 30% is not low fat.