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(@guillermo97)

Posted : 12/05/2016 10:41 am

Yes i agree, i also alot of cashews the day before with the salmon, so i'll cut the two to be sure.

Also regsrding salmon i think its just becsuse processed fish nowaday is full of toxins and chemicals and antibiotics.

Anyway i'm back to raw food diet with cooked sweet potatoes in the evening.

Regarding hormones, yes just the horniness and excitement can givee you acne. If the liver cant get rid of all these hormobes through the blood and lymph system correctly, it just sends them to the skin and they fuck up the oil glands, hence the acne.

EDIT: damn my skin looks good today. The little whiteheads i told you about that popped are all dried out. Guys, all those fruits, vegetables, juices and sweet potatoes i'm eating do wonders for healing. If i get a pimple one day, its dried out the other day. I'm telling you eat more fruits and vegetables my friends!!!

cheers

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Posted : 12/05/2016 12:36 pm

Alsoregarding about redness after masturbation orgasm,Its called SEX FLUSH, its just an increased blood flow to a certain areawhile having sex or masturbating and its healthy and not dangerous. I use to get redness all overmy chest while masturbating alot before. Like 2 or 3 orgasms in a row or alsoafter sex.

Also yesterday i masturbated one time because i was really horny. I had a sex flush on the cheeks and toobe fairit looked nice. It gives color like i just did a heavy sport session so its not that bad. When i told you that i hate my redness onmy forehead a few posts earlier, it wasnt the same thing. It looked really inflammed, contrary to the sex flush redness that gave me nice colored cheeks.

Astold you before, i have a porn addiction and i need to get rid of that. If im toihorny one day and i decide to not masturbate one day, im gonnawatch porn, its inevitable. So first i need to get rid of the association between porn and horninness and masturbation by masturbating whithout it. Then, i can cut masturbation completely

but, i'm still cutting masturbationto 2 times a week max.

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Posted : 12/07/2016 3:44 am

Not about fap thing, just a quick update of an unusual thing.

Last week and this week, I ate 2 grapefruits (Asia's type, big, 1.4 or 2 kg each) & some oranges. But until now have I noticed the effect of overdosing vitamin C. Last 2 nights, I could not sleep well due to the burning sensation inside. My body temperature roseslightly. This morning, I have to stand & run & cold shower & drink a lot of water to lower the burning sensation (could not work). My excess oil production is still the same (not anything noticeable). I am overly active now. I am sure that tonight will be a long night too.

I will stop eating grapefruits, orange for a while....

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Posted : 12/07/2016 11:34 pm

Day 4, here. @shmilyMmmmm.. Pretty weird reaction you got there, i dint think its the vitamin C, its probably the histamines in citrus fruits that causes allergic reaction

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Posted : 12/09/2016 6:00 am

Nearly 2 week after my latest fap session. I think it takes me about 12 days for my oil production comes back to its normal level (but still oily though). In the past several months of last year, I fap once a week, did not take Zinc, and not drink enough water + slept late. No wonder why acne invaded my face in the amount like human population. 

Yesterday, I ate some bad stuffs, snacks of my little sister. Really delicious. But not good for health. 

I have 3,4 pimples pop up. 1 big on temple position. 2 on right & left upper cheek. Some olds still left the marks which make me irritable everytime I look in the mirror. But I don't know why the right face always has more acne than the left. I wash my hand regularly, do not touch face with hand & clean my phone weekly.

Nothing new. Probiotics has arrived. Gonna try it now. 

P.S just found this. FYI. 

 

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Quick update;

My weight is slowly going down as I eat more greens and less carbs. Feeling healthier on the regime and skin is not red flushed or rosacea'd and bloated any more. Most importantly though, the oil is under control! yay!  Just back from a night out and skin is looking good.  If you want the best results then get your weight down to a healthy lvl, I'm talking some abs here. Oily lvl and redness and any bumps like milia that i get have a hard time giving me problems now, think healthy weight means healthy organs!! Glucose regulation is optimum, and the regime of b5, sawpalmetto, omega 3, Vit d(i added as i get no sun) and a ton of Veg and fruit in my Nutribullet get to detox and nourish. (daily exercise too!

There's a big difference between surviving and thriving, you can survive on a normal diet of 2 fruits a day some Pie, a little meat, and some soup and rice, sure. But you won't thrive! But you'll be ok.
Now my daily nutribullet looks like this...
Breakfast Nutribullet :
1 large carrot
1 Celery stick
2 Handfulls of spinach
1 ripe Banana
1 Pear or Apple
2x 5gram tea spoons of B5
2X 5gram of Pure Cocoa (taste and antioxidants) 

Lunch and dinner usually contain meat, eggs, salads, and whole meal breads and pasta. Yes I still have pasta but a max of 50grams of brown pasta at a time covered in meat sauce with mushrooms and carrots etc... I am italian i need pasta! lol
Every meal had a portion of vegetables now which is a massive change for me, but boy its worth it for health and good skin! Now this is helping to not only survive but thrive. 

Get this, over the years people have said I looked much older because my skin has been a right mess of super oilyness, bloating , rosacea, puffyness, and non existant exfoliation. Now I went to a party and two seperate women thought I was 20 and 22!! lool I'm 32. So seriously I wish I knew all of this years ago, you want to stay young and reverse those signs of ageing? Well its free and its called healthy living with an abundance of detox and nourishing nutrients. :)

If I help just one person then this short blog has been worth it indeed!

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Posted : 12/10/2016 1:00 am

You can do it bro, i found a trick that works every time: DISTRACT YOURSELF, NEVER BE ALONE. My friend slept in my room for the past few days and because of that fapping was not an option, now guess what, day 7 :D

however,I slept very late for the past 4 days because as i said my friend went sleeping in at my appartement ever since i arrived and guess what... The healing of my skin is much slower.. Also on top of that i only slept like 5-6 hours per night these 4 days even tho i went to bed at 4-5 am..

SLEEP IS CRUCIAL FOR HEALING AND REGENERATION OF SKIN CELLS. My friend is leaving tommorow sor for the next days ill sleep earlier and see how my skin heals.  

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Posted : 12/10/2016 10:09 am

The trick here is to use magnesium to make you fall asleep easier, and sleep sooner so you don't have a chance to fap.

My Zinc supplement includes a small amount of Magnesium. No wonder why I always feel sleepy after taking it (though in the morning). I am better awake at evening. Today, I tweak the routine a little bit. Taking Zinc in the evening with dinner. Gotta be sure that after typing these lines, reading a romance fiction, turning off the light, I will sleep like dead. But I don't prefer taking Zinc at later time in day due to psyllium husk absorption (I take it every night).

If you can, take it to the next level, sleep at 10:00 PM : )) I guarantee a baby skin (but not possible to me, I have to do some assignments and works).

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Posted : 12/10/2016 11:30 am

I'll try magnesium, i already heard of it for sleep, also, read this: https://m.reddit.com/r/acne/comments/1a1na9/sleep_what_ive_learned_recently/

Guillermo

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Posted : 12/11/2016 10:02 am

Good idea. Overcompensate sleep debt & wake up fully refresh. Worth to try. 9:00 PM is more realistic. Friday, Saturday, even Sunday.

New week is about to start. Stay strong guys.

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Posted : 12/11/2016 9:02 pm

I'm gonna to go to bed in about 20 mins, (21:01 atm), ill let you know on the progress.

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Posted : 12/12/2016 1:43 am

Tips for you guys to fall asleep faster: the 4-7-8 method or square breathing (4s inhale - 4s hold [to absorb more oxygen] - 4s exhale - [to release more CO2] - 4s hold - repeat 4 times only). This has nothing to do with Acne, since I feel more refresh after doing, even after 15 minutes nap, I recommend it to you.
Source: http://www.drweil.com/health-wellness/body-mind-spirit/stress-anxiety/breathing-three-exercises/

3rd week. Nothing changes much. All post-fap symptoms have gone after the 12th day (except Acne).
Zinc & juice, & vegetables are good for health. I still maintain them.

Remember to keep on journaling. To measure is to improve.

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Posted : 12/14/2016 11:55 pm

Stsrted back cold showers every morning and changing pillowcases more frequently.. Good progress so far.. Ill update some more later.

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Posted : 12/15/2016 4:05 pm

I always thought this was bogus, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to try. Was clean yesterday and the day before, so I'll call it day 3.

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Posted : 12/16/2016 11:17 pm

3rd week so far.

Nothing special except some small white head pimples pop up (probably due to foods - why I know it? Because I always see big, red pimples after fapping). Get one day break from taking Zinc, the cumulative effect of low dose Magnesium in the Zinc pill makes me so sleepy.

Have anyone here noticed overeat (eat too much in a meal), can cause acne too? I read somewhere it said that overeating causes digestive problem, thus causes acne.

Keep going with Zinc, leafy vegetable, carrot (vitA), & cool water. In fact, I still love the idea of cool water. After applying toner (about 20-30 mins), I splash my face with water, just feeling soft, fresh & less heavy on face.

Abstinence seems to do a good job to keep me clear. Don't know the next relapse is when (yeah it is hard to fight with the insidious self in your head). Just enjoy the good days while waiting & looking for the cure.

Stay strong. Eat clean. Early to bed early to rise. Not touching the guy. Will make you clear for a while.

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Posted : 12/18/2016 9:58 pm

Keyword of the week: PROLACTIN

After masturbating, prolactin level rises very high & it lowers the dopamine level significantly. I think we should dig this further. Because, after all, our main purpose is to become less fragile (acne pop up too much) in the post-fap session, not abstinence or becoming a nun (not having sex forever).

We must understand (very deeply) what happen during & after we masturbate. I mean not reading from articles on the web but in real books, research papers... so that we know what variables really affect us.

You guys can search on the forum for some initial understanding.

P.S.actually when rethinking, I should separate 2 problems we are facing (unfortunately):
1. Masturbate & have acne after that (the main case)
2. Not masturbate, or fap-free for a while but still have minor acne (this is not much as severe as the main case)

I hate this curse. sometimes, I think, after all, true happiness should be acne free.

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Posted : 12/19/2016 4:29 pm

Was clear for 5-6 days, masturbated yesterday and red pimple popped up directly on middle of forehead. Feelsbadman. Day 1 today

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Posted : 12/20/2016 8:51 am

Keep well man. Prolactin is about to rise (my assumption). Try to find ways to increase dopamine level (work out, feel good about yourself, watch something fun...). My latest hypothesis. More dopamine = low prolactin.

Going against nature is never easy, especially when you have to confront with your own irrational mind, your fap drive. I'd love the feeling before & during but just like you, feeling very very bad after it. You have gone a long way then suddenly you have to come back from where you start. Do it again and again and again. A vicious cycle. At least you are still luckier than me, acne pop up becauseof over-masturbation. Me, whenever I fap, no matter the frequency, everything goes bad bad & bad. I hate this curse but find no cure (at least til now).

At the end of the week will mark my 1 month from abstinence. The past record is about 6 months.

I have yet to see any significant effect from probiotics, just feel energetic & not groggy in the morning (due to magnesium in bio zinc). Plus it does not make me break out (I use low dose, 3 days/week - some forum member report that probiotic make their acne worse) & it helps better Zinc absorption & this is natural so I will keep it with me in the long run.

P.S. actually I don't think about this option yet: go to theendocrinologist to see what is wrong with our hormone system,, rather than digging & searching in the dark like this. don't intend to discourage you guys. but that may be our last way. (along with Accutane, the only that blocks sebum gland)

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Posted : 12/24/2016 6:11 am

I came across with this mega thread. You guys may want to have a look at it. We are all on the same boat. Acne is disastrous but it is not worth to try Accutane due to it severe consequences. I see real people who have 1% side effects (IBS, depression, dry skin, joint pain....) - so I guess side effecs are not rare. 

Never lose hope, team. 

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/295030-repairing-the-long-term-damage-from-accutane/#comment-3077749

& Merry Christmas :) 

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Posted : 12/27/2016 9:06 pm

Hey guys, sorry for not being active lately

Right now my progress is very good

i ajusted my sleep schedule and about 5/7 days per week i sleep before midnight and wake at about 7-9. Before that, iwas going to sleep at 3-4 am which is obviously bad.

also at christmas party i ate a little bit of bad foods but no acne appeared. One reason is that ive started back to take cold showers. I put my face in the ice cold water a good minute and it does the job. Also i drink alot of water and keep my vegetable and fruits intake high everyday.

Regarding masturbation, ive effectively stopped doing it excessively and my acne is very diminished.

also started playing hockey outside everyday since its winter (fresh air+sweating=great skin)

My problem area was mostly forehead, but ive started back washing my hair more frequently, as i have long hair, all the pollution, dust and other nasty shit in the air will be in my hair for too long and it needs to be washed.

Also i change my pillow sheets EVERYDAY to avoid dirt to touch my face.

so for me avoiding anything that touches my skin and avoiding bacteria/dirt on my skin while maintaining a very healthy lifestyle does the job. Also, i est oysters 2-3 times a week for zinc, so masturbation no longers has an effect on me.

i am convinced if you do everything i mentionned you will start to get clear. ESPECIALLY, the cold showers, exercice and high amount of water.

Let me know if it works

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Posted : 12/28/2016 8:50 am

Yoooo! how is it going with the challenge?

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Posted : 12/28/2016 10:09 am

Problem for me is not masturbating. I can stay without masturbation forever. Problem for me is wet dreams. I have a wet dream per week.
However, i`m on Accutane low dose for about 5 weeks and no pimples right now on my face. Just a lot of scars and dark pigmentation. I use a retinoid cream to remove these scars and spots in the night.
First month i was on 20 mg per day and now i`m on 30 mg. No side effects, just dry lips and a little of back pain. Doctor told me to stay on Accutane for about 3-4 months on 30 mg since my acne is low to moderate.
But like you my spots and acne aggravates after wet dreams / masturbation occured. Doctor told me Accutane will resolve this since it will lower the glands and get all oil from them.

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Posted : 12/28/2016 10:14 am

Nearly a month no-fap so far.
All I can tell is, as long as I do not go to "hard mode", I am almost clear. Sometimes I eat bad, a few pimples appear but small (compare the amount and size with hormonal acne after fapping, diet-related-acne are far smaller).

Congrats you on your positive progress @Guillermo97I will adopt your regular pillow sheet changing habits. Playing hockey and sweating help produce dopamine which inhibits the prolactinlevel (which may be the main cause of our hormonal acne). I do not sweat much. But I will try to level up my workout.

@JikasaHow is it going with your sugar-free diet? Have you seen any effect yet?

Bio Zinc still does a good job in helping me with my healing process & keeps the acne at the bay. I plan to purchase some more.
My next stop are (on the way) Cod liver oil (vitamin A + D3) and Milk Thistle extract (detox my liver due to I consume a significant amount of Vitamin A). I will update the result with you guys.

Keep well.

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Posted : 12/28/2016 3:28 pm

@shmilyMi amhappy for you thst you have some progress also, keep going. Regarding dopamine and prolactin, i have already studied the link between them and i do agree with you and it plays a role. Hence cutting out masturbation and doing sports and exercice helps acne. I would really recommend sweating as contrary to popular belief, it doesnt block pores is a natural anti-bacterial. Read this: http://supernaturalacnetreatment.com/sweat-your-way-to-clear-skin/

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Posted : 12/31/2016 10:17 am

Just a few hours left until the new year.

I am glad to know you guys. The journey haven't ended yet, still a long way to go but at least we are making progress (and hopefully will in 2017), & keep each other accountable. Thank you all for your support.

Enjoy and happy holidays, and all the best for 2017, hope all your wishes and dreams come true in the new year!

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Posted : 12/31/2016 2:37 pm

Also warning: long post bit it is informative and you will learn from my mistakes.

2017 will be the year we get clear guys, happy holidays everyone.

For me getting clear will get me back my old personnality as all these skin issues made me really depressed and sad.. But anyways, here are my goals for 2017:

-Try my best at nofap for wellbeing and skin benefits

-sleep earlier and wake earlier monday to friday.

-Hygiene: continue washing pillows, taking cold showers, wash my hair frequently.

-drink 3-4l of water everyday as sometimes i forget to hydrate alot. This has a very good effect on my face when i drink alot of water for a few days.

-continue to eat well (vegan) with high fruits/veggies intake and try  to limit junk food and sugar to week ends. Also continue taking my oysters for high zinc intake.

-I'm gonna also try to sweat more and i'll continue to play hockey and exercice. I might get back in bodybuilding (weight training) as i've been training for 2-3 years and it has always seemed to make my skin better.

-Big goal: Get rid of redness on middle of forehead (red marks??) right now its slowly going away.

Also for the past month i've had weird redness and itching on my eyelids (allergies) which is probably due to the fact that i just moved out and i dont take care and clean my appartement at all which is obviously bad for both skin and allergies.

All this dust and other nasty shit is getting into the air and i breath this all day..

Also last night i got very sick (dhiarrea,nausea) which is weird since i very rarely get sick and never had dhisrrea before and i had to sleep at. hospital.

My parents are 100% sure its because of the insalubrity in my appartement. So, its a wake up call for me to not only take care of myself but also take care of my home.

So guys, make sure you get fresh air into your house/appartement frequently and clean often. Breathing fresh and clean air is good for both skin and wellbeing.

dont be like me, dont wait till you get sick and get alleries.

So to finish,

Good luck to you guys, party and have fun tonight for new years eve but dont forget to get back on healthy lifestyle habits after that. Bad food and alcohol in moderation :) :P

I'm confident we will get clear this year with a naturaland healthy lifestyle.

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